Talat Kursat Law Firm – ISO9001 related emails

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In line with my promise not to write an article on the ISO9001 issue and having expected it to be printed today, I am merely itemising emails in chronological order for you to be able to come to your own conclusions. I am sure Malcolm will confirm that he has put a little ‘pressure’ on me to do this.

Tues 24 August 2010 email from WCS’s Turkish Office :

Finally I can write to you about this company. Mehmet Ali was trying to connect with the company since Monday but he couldn’t reach company representatives (it’s been said that they were in court etc.) So he sent them a warning letter about not to use our logos but they did not respond our calls or fax. Mehmet Ali called our lawyer today, he said that we can’t do anything about this situation because we don’t have a branch or brand registration in Cyprus. So we can’t do anything about this, maybe you can do something.

Mon 6 Sept 2010 email from WCS World Certification Services

I can confirm that the company Talat Kursat is not and has never been ISO9001 registered with World Certification Services. When we were informed they were using our logo we contacted our Turkish office to deal with this matter, I have included their reply below. We are currently reviewing the situation to see which way we can proceed with this situation.

Kind regards

Tues 7 September 2010 email from WCS

NQA is a UKAS accredited certification body and I believe that they operate in Cyprus. I have added a link to their website below. This does not explain why Talat Kursat were using the logo of WCS as NQA have their own logos(certification is not shared amongst certification bodies), once a certificate is issued the logos are sent out with it. Perhaps you can contact NQA to confirm that they originally issued certification to Talat Kursat.

Kind regards

Weds 8 September 2010 email from NQA time 15.49.52

I can confirm that the company in question is not currently registered with NQA

I have forwarded our email onto our NQA misuse department to look into

Many thanks for your notification.

Weds 8 September 2010 email from NQA International Development time 19.11.32

Please be advised that Talat Kursat were certified by NQA Jan. 29 2006 with certificate number 21264

Talat Kursat were deregistered by NQA on Jan 10, 2008.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention and we will take steps to cease their use of our logo.

Thurs 9th September 2010 email from NQA Int. Dev. time 16.23.16

I am bound by confidentiality and cannot share with the reason for their deregistration by NQA.

We are pursuing them to remove our logo from their website and will make every effort to ensure that it is removed be assured.

Thanks and regards.

Frid 10 September 2010 email from NQA time 10.26.57

I am most grateful to you for bringing this to our attention and very saddened to hear about your experiences with this firm.

I am visiting Cyprus next week and will take the time to visit this firm in an effort to stop them using our logo.

Best regards.

Make up you own minds,

You Couldn’t Make It Up.

In line with my promise not to write an article on the ISO9001 issue and having expected
it to be printed today.  I am merely itemising e mails in chronological order for you
to be able to come to your own conclusions.  I am sure Malcolm will confirm that
he has put a little ‘pressure’ on me to do this.
———-
Mon 6 Sept 2010  e mail from WCS World Certification Services
I can confirm that the company Talat Kursat is not and has never been ISO9001
registered with World Certification Services.  When we were informed they were
using our logo we contacted our Turkish office to deal with this matter, I have
included their reply below.  We are currently reviewing the situation to see which
way we can proceed with this situation.
Kind regards
———-
copy of e mail from WCS’s Turkish Office   24 August 2010
Finally I can write to you about this company.  Mehmet Ali was trying to connect with the
company since Monday but he couldn’t reach company representatives (it’s been said that they
were in court etc.)  So he sent them a warning letter about not to use our logos but they did
not respond our calls or fax.  Mehmet Ali called our lawyer today, he said that we can’t do
anything about this situation because we don’t have a branch or brand registration in Cyprus.
So we can’t do anything about this, maybe you can do something.
———-
copy e mail from  WCS   7 September 2010
NQA is a UKAS accredited certification body and I believe that they operate in Cyprus.  I have
added a link  to their website below.  This does not explain why Talat Kursat were using the logo
of WCS as NQA have their own logos(certification is not shared amongst certification bodies),
once a certificate is issued the logos are sent out with it.  Perhaps you can contact NQA to confirm that they originally issued certification to Talat Kursat.
Kind regards
———-
Wed 8 September 2010 e mail from NQA  time 15.49.52
I can confirm that the company in question is not currently registered with NQA
I have forwarded our e mail onto our NQA misuse department to look into
Many thanks for your notification.
———-
Wed 8 September 2010 e mail from NQA International Development  time  19.11.32
Please be advised that Talat Kursat were certified by NQA Jan. 29 2006 with certificate
number 21264
Talat Kursat were deregistered by NQA on Jan 10, 2008.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention and we will take steps to cease their use
of our logo.
———-
Thurs. 9th September 2010 e mail from NQA Int. Dev.  time 16.23.16
I am bound by confidentiality and cannot share with the reason for their deregistration
by NQA.
We are pursuing them to remove our logo from their website and will make every effort
to ensure that it is removed be assured.
Thanks and regards.
———-
Fri  10 September 2010 e mail from NQA  time  10.26.57
I am most grateful to you for bringing this to our attention and very saddened to hear
about your experiences with this firm.
I am visiting Cyprus next week and will take the time to visit this firm in an effort to
stop them using our logo.
Best regards.
Make up you own minds,
You Couldn’t Make It Up.
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